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    • #52548
      Avatar photoArt Liebl
      Keymaster

      In at least 250 words, think about the difference between an interpreter and translator. What are the biggest differences? What are the challenges of each? Why is it important to understand that an interpreter is not a translator? Reply to two fellow students by Monday.

    • #57263
      Avatar photoArt Liebl
      Keymaster

      One of our past students stated: “There are multiple challenges to the roles of interpreter and translator. I would put accuracy high on both lists. However, accuracy for the translator refers to the choice of a particular word. For the interpreter, accuracy relies on faithfully transmitting the spirit and cultural context of the spoken word in both languages.” Feeding off of your thought, interpreters need to convey not only the spoken message but also the feelings and emotions behind the words. This is a challenge and let’s demonstrate it in this way: Imagine you were with a physician and a Mrs. Perez. As the doctor starts the encounter he asks the patient how she is as he continues typing in his computer. With tears in her eyes the patient responds, “I’m fine”. What would you do in this case? To be a true conduit (an expression you will learn about next week), you need to give the physician the whole and complete picture of what was said. You would need to impart to the physician not only the content, but also the emotional color the patient gave those words…THAT IS A CHALLENGE!

      Question for the class: how would you give the words, “I’m fine” the emotional color necessary to impart to the provider the way it was said? This expression, “I’m fine” can be said in a wide array of manners…from happy to sleepy, to sad, to sarcastic… How do we deal with these varying feelings and emotions in the way we interpret?

      • #57269
        Marjetta Juul
        Participant

        Art, your scenario about Mrs. Perez and the tearful “I’m fine” hits right at the core of what makes medical interpreting so profoundly human and complex.

        To answer your question on how to impart that emotional color to the provider as an interpreter is such a task !

        I can only imagine what it will be like in this setting by using a former setting when I was a mental health aide in a residential healthcare setting and documented medical observations in the MAR. We cannot add theatrical stage directions or editorialize by saying “(said sadly while crying)” because that breaks our role as a transparent conduit. Nor can I simply narrate actions to be truly objective like in case observation notes…Instead, I imagine we must capture the paralinguistic elements—the cadence, the localized intonation, the heavy sigh, or the tremor in the voice—and mirror that exact delivery in the target language while maintaining the first-person pronoun (“I’m fine”). If the voice is choked up, our interpretation in the target language must carry that exact acoustic weight so the physician looks up from the computer and realizes there is clinical urgency beyond the literal words.

    • #57266
      Flaviane Wronski
      Participant

      Although interpreters and translator have very different careers, they have one thing in common: they are professionals who are fluent in at least two language whose goal is to break down language barriers and connect different cultures. This similarity can be a cause of misconception, leading to the incorrect idea that both professionals perform the same job.

      The first main difference that comes to my mind is that translators work with a written text. They have time to research terms, check their work many times, and make corrections before submitting. Translators also usually work in one direction, which means they received the text in one language and translate into the other.

      Interpreters, on the other hand, work with spoken languages. They work on spot, interpreting simultaneously while someone speaks or right after they stop. There is no time to research or check terms. Interpreters also work in both directions between two languages.

      The two professionals also differ in the skills they are expected to have and the settings in which they work. While translators are required to present good writing and editing skills, interpreters need to have quick thinking, good memory and strong listening comprehension. Translators often have the flexibility to work remotely or from a home office, while interpreters most likely need to work on-site.

      Understanding the difference between these two professionals is critical because hiring the wrong professional can lead to communication problems, compromised projects, and even costly legal issues. Both translators and interpreters play an important role in connecting people from all parts of the world, but they have different skills, abilities and those differences need to be considered.

      • #57270
        Marjetta Juul
        Participant

        Flavianne–
        I appreciate how clearly you mapped out the structural differences!

        Especially highlighting how translators work in a single direction with written texts and time for research, whereas interpreters handle bidirectional spoken communication on the fly. Your point about the high stakes of hiring the wrong professional is spot-on. In a medical or legal setting, treating a translator like an interpreter—or expecting a live interpreter to produce a polished, localized translation of a dense written consent form on the spot—directly compromises the integrity of the communication and can lead to severe safety or legal hazards.

        During my consulting work involving complex international stakeholders—where navigating nuanced Finnish directness alongside layered Gabonese and French formalities required intense, high-stakes navigation—a CEO once mistakenly assumed I could just “translate” the words, only to realize mid-stream how catastrophic that oversimplification was and how deeply complicated the cultural engagement truly was. Conflating these roles ignores the living, breathing human dynamics that a dictionary or a static text can never capture.

        • #57292
          Laura Sewall
          Participant

          Marjetta I agree with you that interpreters need to understand people and cultures, not just languages. But because I work as a volunteer translator, I see how we have been receiving a lot of updated training and how it helps us now understand that translating word for word is a thing of the past.

          Modern translators recognize that what matters most is expressing ideas in a way that sounds natural to the people of the target language and culture. The goal is to touch people’s hearts and communicate the intended message effectively. Sometimes, the way something is phrased can create unnecessary doubts, while a small adjustment, or even omitting a single word, can make a significant difference.

          I don’t have much knowledge about how translators in other organizations are trained, but when I compare the translations of the fiction books I’ve read, I can see that translators here in Brazil generally do a very good job of making the text sound natural and engaging.

          My feeling is that, whether you are a translator or an interpreter, you need to adjust your mindset and avoid becoming stuck on the idea that “I have to translate every word or else the meaning will be lost.” In many cases, focusing too much on individual words can actually obscure the intended meaning.

          However, based on what I have studied about interpreting, I also believe that if you can accurately convey exactly what the speaker is saying, while preserving the same tone and intent, that is generally preferable. The challenge is finding the right balance between accuracy and natural expression.

      • #57289
        Emely Ortega
        Participant

        Hi Fiavianne! I really liked how you explained the differences between both roles in translation and interpretation , especially the part about translators having more time to research and review their work. I didn’t realize how different the two roles were before taking this course, so I can definitely relate to the misconception you mentioned.

      • #57291
        Laura Sewall
        Participant

        I really liked your point, Flaviane, about how interpreters work in both directions between two languages and not just in one. I believe that even helps us practice our translation skills because many people who translate constantly from English to Portuguese may not be able to translate from Portuguese to English since they are so used to the specific structure and grammar of that specific target language. It keeps interpreters on their toes! Also, it’s so interesting how you pointed out that translators need good writing skills, while interpreters need other kinds of skills like quick thinking, good memory, and listening comprehension. It’s good to remember these specific skills so that, as we are training, we know exactly what can help us become better interpreters!

    • #57271
      Marjetta Juul
      Participant

      While both interpreters and translators share a deep foundation of bilingualism and a commitment to cultural bridging, treating them as interchangeable is a fundamental misunderstanding of cognitive processing and communication dynamics. The primary divergence lies in modality and time. Translators operate in the written realm as text architects who utilize dictionaries, glossaries, and temporal breathing room to refine syntax and polish style, typically working unidirectionally into their native language. Interpreters, on the other hand, operate in real-time acoustic environments as cognitive athletes who must process, deconstruct, and instantly reconstruct spoken discourse across two languages simultaneously or consecutively, mastering bidirectional fluidity with zero margin for hesitation.

      Consequently, the core challenges of each field are vastly different. The translator’s challenge involves navigating structural ambiguity, cultural idioms, and stylistic equivalence within a static text across time and space without face-to-face clarification. Meanwhile, the interpreter’s challenge centers on managing extreme cognitive load under severe time pressure while navigating emotional volatility, interpersonal dynamics, and systemic power imbalances in high-stakes environments like a clinical setting. Understanding that an interpreter is not a translator is critical because conflating these roles ignores distinct neurological pathways and specialized skill sets, which can lead to severe communication breakdowns and compromised safety.
      Reflecting on these paths personally, the structure of translation initially appealed to me because I liked the idea of a focused workflow where tasks are completed without lingering loose ends or the continuous pressure of chasing live work assignments. Yet, language work is a lifelong journey; for Finnish, I would love to build my proficiency over the next few years to a level where I can eventually apply for formal translation certificates, appreciating both the quiet precision of the written word and the vibrant real-time pulse of interpretation.

      Reflecting on these paths personally, I am someone with many goals who is continually learning to pace myself toward them. As a lifelong lover of languages, I have always deeply cherished the ability to be precise in how we express ourselves—a passion that, from a young age, led me to write and publish small pieces that meant a great deal to me. Language is truly a gift. Knowing that this program is helping expand that foundation and mettre ça en relief—bringing those capabilities into sharper, more meaningful relief—makes this journey all the more rewarding. While translation’s focused, independent nature originally appealed to me, for Finnish, I would love to build my proficiency over the next few years to a level where I can eventually apply for formal translation certificates, embracing both the quiet precision of the written word and the vibrant real-time pulse of interpretation.

      • #57293
        Laura Sewall
        Participant

        Marjetta I really enjoyed reading this. I am also a lifelong lover of languages so it was great knowing how You explain the differences between translation and interpreting. I especially liked the contrast between the deliberate, reflective nature of translation and the fast-paced demands of interpreting. What stood out the most to me was your personal connection to language. It’s clear that this is something you’ve valued for a long time. The willingness to grow steadily toward your goal is very motivating. And my favorite part was when you said that language work is a lifelong journey. That´s the beauty of it!

    • #57275
      Laura Sewall
      Participant

      When I read this question I got so excited to answer it!

      Working as a translator and studying translation since January has taught me that a translator doesn’t translate word for word, and that translation is not literal. A translation can change the words as long as the meaning is still there. You can change it for the purpose of making the translation natural and clear for your specific audience.

      Now, from what I understand about interpretation, although I haven’t technically studied interpretation yet, it does have to be more literal. It’s like an actress who interprets a character. She has to interpret exactly who that character is, and if she has specific lines, she also has to interpret those exact lines. She can’t change what is being said. An interpreter is basically the voice of that person, so they cannot change what the person is saying just to make it sound more natural or exact in their own language, even if the original expression doesn’t sound natural in the target language.

      So, I think that is one of the biggest differences. As a translator, you’re trying to make a version of that material or video that will appeal to the audience while still maintaining the tone and meaning of the original narrator. You can make changes in the order of the sentences or in the way that you say something for the benefit of your audience. With interpretation, however, you have to maintain what the person is saying as accurately as possible.

      Another major difference is that translation can involve written material, while interpretation is oral. A translator can take their time, pause, research, and think about which words or expressions would be the most natural in the target language. An interpreter doesn’t have that same opportunity. They have to process the information and communicate it almost immediately.

      The biggest challenge of translation, in my opinion, is making the specific material you’re translating, touch other people’s hearts while also sounding natural in your target language. For example, if something is funny in the original language, you want it to be funny in your target language too. If something is sad in the original language, you want the audience to feel that same sadness in the target language. Sometimes you have to change sentence structure, do a lot of research, and think carefully about which words and expressions would or wouldn’t be natural in your target language.

      As for interpretation, I believe the main challenge is remembering and processing everything that is being said while consistently interpreting.You have to respond very quickly, and you can’t leave out information. Everything that the speaker says is important, even the tone and way the person said something.

      I believe it is very important to understand that an interpreter is not a translator because the two professions require different skills and approaches. If you don’t understand that difference, you could make the mistake of treating interpretation the same way you would treat translation. A translator has more freedom to adapt the material for the target audience, while an interpreter has to communicate the speaker’s message accurately and immediately. Understanding this difference is important because both professionals are responsible for making sure that the original message is communicated correctly, but they do it in very different ways.

      I could go on and on. I love this topic! Excited to talk about this with the other students.
      —Laura Sewall.

    • #57277
      Marjetta Juul
      Participant

      I watched this video, it’s an old favoite, Art, kindly remove if found irrelevant or offensive. You can absolutely redirect if seeming unrelated…

      I am sharing this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA4vg9GoOfc is a great reminder that while healthcare meets our immediate survival needs, broader representation across the board—including in arts and entertainment—is what keeps our community ‘engines’ fully healthy.

      Far from being off-topic for an interpreter program, artistic spaces actually test the absolute limits of language and communication. Watching a non-hearing performer match timing and movement makes you ask: How do you dance with something you can’t hear? It forces us to completely re-examine what ‘hearing’ and shared experience even mean.

      Tied right into our homework themes:
      Challenges & Differences: If a translator works with fixed written text over time, how does a music interpreter handle live rhythm, emotion, and regional sign differences (since there’s no universal sign language, and facing a foreign signed barrier is way more than just an ‘accent’)?
      Why the Distinction Matters: When we casually call an interpreter a ‘translator on the spot,’ are we erasing the real-time cognitive gymnastics of live processing?
      Curious how everyone else connects these dots…Also- made me consider what value the hands have, it is her second mouth and what skill to SPEAK, SIGN but effectively with a full range of expression and creativity.

      • #57290
        Emely Ortega
        Participant

        Marjetta,
        I really enjoyed your post and thought the video was such an interesting way to look at communication. I especially liked your point about the hands being like a “second mouth.” It really shows how much emotion and meaning can be expressed without speaking.

        • #57294
          Laura Sewall
          Participant

          Yes Emely I also agree that the hands being like a second mouth. People tend to say that only latin people gesture while they talk, but I believe its simply another way of expressing yourself and another way of showing feelings that might seem hard to describe using just words. Your body gesture changes the whole mood and tone of a scene.

    • #57288
      Emely Ortega
      Participant

      Before taking this course, I honestly thought an interpreter and a translator were basically the same thing. I knew both involved helping people communicate between languages, but I didn’t realize that their roles were different. An interpreter works with spoken or signed communication and helps two or more people understand each other in real time. A translator, on the other hand, works with written information, such as documents, forms, or other written materials, and converts that information from one language into another.

      One of the biggest challenges for an interpreter is having to listen, understand, and communicate the message accurately and quickly without changing the speaker’s meaning. In healthcare, this is especially important because patients may be discussing personal or sensitive information. An interpreter must remain neutral, maintain confidentiality, and communicate everything accurately. A translator usually has more time to research terminology and review their work, but they still have to make sure the written message has the same meaning as the original.

      it is important to understand the difference between interpreter and translator because of the different roles, they both play knowing the difference helps ensure that the right person is being used and the information is communicated properly especially being in the medical field two are confused it could lead to a lot of misunderstanding can affect the outcome of the patients results.

    • #57309
      Andrelle Garcon
      Participant

      Wow this is a great discussion class

      I learned that interpreter’s are there to convert spoken or sign language in real time at the location, such as medical appointment, courtroom or meetings either via Zoom or in person they listen process accurately regardless of the tone they have to maintain the exact message for accuracy.

      Translator is on the other hand they have to translate written text from one language to another whether it’s on a website on a document or a forum forms blogs, etc. they have a longer amount of time to research the terminology of things. revise and polish for the accuracy of reporting. in order for it to sound natural in the stages of reporting. so the target audience.

      Hi Laura it’s wonderful to hear from someone who has experience translating since January.Youve made a great point regarding translation isn’t word for word and in some cases can be adapted that’s great insight.that shows a lot of flexibility translators can have.i really like your point regarding the your example making humor sound fund fund and sadness truly feel sad to the target audience. I do have to say with interpretation we have to give the full meaning with out our own tone but rather stay focused on the conversation with out adding or changes.do you think you translation skills will affect Your interpretation skills you seem well informed too.

      Emely I like how you brought Confidence to the table and staying focused being neutral super important for healthcare I thought the same thing also before taking on this course honestly I didn’t even think there was a separation until now. I agree with you fully with the accuracy in the hospital setting situation asking an interpreter to produce discharge documents definitely puts patients car at a high risk.

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